Bismillahi ar-rahman ar-rahim
I recently was referred to a video by my wife about “Jesus strongly warning against Islam”. Of course, being the curious guy that I am I had to take a look at the video and I couldn’t believe it! The most basic things were misrepresented and the most bizarre interpretations were given for certain Biblical verses.
Here’s the video for those that are curious but I’ll make time stamp references in this article to make it easier to compare arguments.
So what is the video talking about? Essentially the guy in the video claims that Jesus warns against the “mark and the image”, that beast will come and place a mark on people. This “mark” according to this genius is the “shahada”, the testimony of faith which he claims is faith and worship to a false god of fortresses, and the “image” is the Ka’aba, which Muslims revere as the House of Allah. Let’s break the arguments of the video down.
At 1:20, Jesus could return today so “mark and image” exists today
The man in the video claims that Jesus can return at any day, including today! Therefore in this man’s baby logic, the “mark and image” must also exist today. Before the time stamp 1:20 the man relates various differences of how the Bible and Quran portrays Jesus and therefore since the two scriptures contradict one another, only one of the narratives can be true.
Well, firstly to get a minor point of logic out the way, two explanations for something that contradict each other, do not necessarily portray the “truth” of the matter either. You could feasibly have two “wrong” explanations of a matter. So the Bible narrative being false does not by itself prove the Quran true and vice versa. So, we would have to examine the content of each scripture and see if it makes sense with what we can understand, with archaelogical or traditonal evidences and for the gnostics, if it rings true.
For example if the Bible says Jesus is the Son of God, and the Quran says he’s just a man and that God has no sons or daughters, then of course these claims are mutually exclusive. Either Jesus is a man (he is) or he’s the Son of God and deserves our worship (he does not). This is pretty black and white, so yes in this case if one is false, the other is true.
1:45 the bible is true claim
At this point he says that the Bible is true and he can “prove” this. He basically says that that the book of Revelations “predicts” the “mark and image” used to promote the worship of a false god, and since the Bible came first it’s true. ,_,
Hopefully this guy is not in a debating team.😅
3:42 the shahada is the mark Jesus warned about…apparently
The following is the verbatim quote that he said at this point: “The shahada is the mark or statement of faith to a god other than Jesus we are warned about in the book of Revelations. When the shahada says there is no god but Allah, Muhammad is the messenger of Allah, it is giving a lie that Jesus is not god.”
Now, I’d like to take a moment to agree with this man that this statement of faith does indeed negate anyone else’s divinity except for Allah. Allah (exalted is He) is actually a proper name (at 01:05:00) rather than a derived word, so this statement of faith excludes every single conceivable thing except what we know as Allah, our Lord, Creator and Sustainer.
I actual fact it appears that the written arabic of the shahada is what is considered the “mark” in this man’s opinion. So far he hasn’t provided his evidence that the Bible suggests or states that the shahada to a false god is the mark. But let’s continue.
4:30 The Islamic Allah is the new fortress god…wut?! (‘-‘)
Literally gives no evidence for this. But he also says that Allah is not Jesus (that is correct), and not Jehova and not Yahweh. Also, I guess all those Arab Christians who call God “Allah” in speech and their arabic Bibles must be worshipping a “false god”.🤔 He says the prophet Daniel prophesied that a god of fortresses would be worshipped 1100 years before Muhammad and Umar the second Caliph “discovered” Islam.🤔…So I guess “Islam” wasn’t a religion until years after the Prophet died, hmmm that’s a rather strange oversight.
So here’s the quote from Daniel 11:38 (NIV):
“Instead of them he will honour the god of fortresses, a god unkown to his ancestors, he will honour with gold and silver, with precious stones and costly gifts”
Whatever this Bible verse is referring to, it is certainly not Allah and the Prophet Muhammad (peace be upon him). Firstly, before the Prophet preached his message of the Oneness of Allah, all the arabs (apart from some atheists, zoroastrians and dualists) believed in Allah as the creator of everything they could see (and everything they couldn’t see). But they treated Allah in the same manner as Zues was treated by the Greeks, as the head god amongst a bunch of gods and goddesses. Furthermore they would not acknowledge Allah as their “rabb”, meaning Lord and Sustainer.
This is made clear in this verse of the Quran (29:61 Yusuf Ali translation):
“If indeed thou ask them who has created the heavens and the earth and subjected the sun and the moon (to his Law), they will certainly reply, “(Allah)”. How are they then deluded away (from the truth)?”
Now, the Prophet Muhammad came as the Messenger of Allah. Was Allah considered a god of fortresses? No. Did the Prophet Muhammad give gifts of treasure in honour of Allah? Again, no. The Prophet was a simple shepherd, and also a trader and lived a very simple life with his wife Khadija. After he started preaching, the main converts at the beginning were the poor and slaves, though some very rich arabs became muslims such as the Prophet’s friend Abu Bakr. Allah was and is glorified through the daily prayers, quran recitation and the various other means of remembrance of Him such as invoking His Name repeatedly. What would He need with gold, which He can create any time He wants? And also He doesn’t need our worship and remembrance, but He wants it and His pleasure is our salvation.
5:28 The mark of the Beast
Here he quotes from Revelations 14:11-12 (NIV) about those who receive the mark getting a terrible unending torment:
“11. And the smoke of their torment will rise forever and ever. There will be no rest day or night for those who worship the beast and its image, or for anyone who receives the mark of its name. 12. This calls for patient endurance on the part of the people of God who keep his commands and remain faithful to Jesus.” (Underlined bits are my own emphasis)
6:36 Worshipping a false god
Now at this point in the video the man says something very interesting. That worshipping a false god is a violation of the 1st and 2nd commandments from the Ten commandments. And just look how in these next few seconds he completely contradicts his belief that Jesus is god.
1st commandment: “Thou shalt have no other gods before Me”
2nd commandment: “Thou shalt not make unto thee any graven image”
Basically don’t call anything besides God as God, and especially don’t make images and worship them as God. And yet the Christians have trinified God by essentially making Jesus one with God (as well as the Holy Spirit), and have portraits of “Jesus”, and sculptures of “Jesus” being crucified. The Cross is treated as holy and somehow connected with God.
Then he goes on to quote from Exodus 20:2-6 (NIV):
“2 “I am the Lord your God, who brought you out of Egypt, out of the land of slavery.
3 “You shall have no other gods before[a] me.
4 “You shall not make for yourself an image in the form of anything in heaven above or on the earth beneath or in the waters below.
5 You shall not bow down to them or worship them; for I, the Lord your God, am a jealous God, punishing the children for the sin of the parents to the third and fourth generation of those who hate me,
6 but showing love to a thousand generations of those who love me and keep my commandments.”
Here’s the thing that struck me after hearing this part of the video. God here is saying that He is the one that took the Jews along with Moses out of salvery in Egypt. Soon after that God gave Moses the Ten Commandments. So, for these Jews and Moses at the time, what was their key for salvation as they understood it? Following the Ten Commandments of course. Moses was not conversing with Jesus. He was conversing with Yahweh. The only time the idea that belief in the crucifixion and resurrection became the route to salvation came after the time of Jesus. In Jesus’s own life time, and in the life time of those that came before Jesus, not once is the idea that his future crucifixion and resurrection important or mentioned. It was in fact belief in the One God, and doing righteous deeds on Earth.
Another question I would pose to a Christian is that was Moses (the man deemed worthy to converse directly with Yahweh and receive the Ten Commandments) in some kind of limbo state until the crucifixion and resurrection occured? Or was he someone who achieved salvation at his death?
The next interesting thing mentioned in the preceding verses is that God forbade making an image of anything in Heavens and Earth (meaning anything we can see or imagine) and bowing down or worshipping them. Jesus existed on Earth and therefore no images should be made of him and worshipped. Doing so violates the commandments and contradicts those verses in Exodus. In essence God should be worshipped without conjuring up an imagined image of Him, but rather a mental and heartfelt acknowledgement of the One responsible for your creation and sustenance without trying to encompass him with thought and imagination. And Jesus should be taken as an example of how to worship God truly as he worshipped Him. And indeed somehow God in Flesh worshipped God in Heaven. Just writing that sentence felt wrong, but that in essence is the corruption in the Christian dogma.
If you examine Jesus’s example, he prayed, he supplicated, he preached to other Jews about God, not about himself, except to say that he is a warner and messenger. And this portrayal of Jesus is very evident within the Bible.
21 When all the people were being baptized, Jesus was baptized too. And as he was praying, heaven was opened
16 But Jesus often withdrew to lonely places and prayed.
35 Very early in the morning, while it was still dark, Jesus got up, left the house and went off to a solitary place, where he prayed.
Our Father in heaven, hallowed be your name. Your kingdom come. Your will be done, on earth as it is in heaven. Give us this day our daily bread. And forgive us our debts, as we also have forgiven our debtors. And do not bring us to the time of trial, but rescue us from the evil one.
Notice that in these verses Jesus is praying to God and in the Lord’s Prayer to the “Father”, but the point is he is praying to something beyond himself. Notice also in the Lord’s Prayer how says “your will” rather than “our will”. Notice also he says “forgive us”, but without any reference to a crucifixion. (Almost as if God has the capacity to forgive sins without requiring blood…go figure🤔 ). Finally notice the reference made to not bringing the trial close to us and protection from the evil one. What is this a reference to? It’s a reference to the time of the Anti-Christ (or Dajjal in Islamic tradition).
Notice how in all this, Jesus is seeking help from something beyond himself (I’m choosing the word “beyond” rather than “outside” because God is neither outside nor inside but nevertheless intimately connected with us). Jesus did not forgive people their sins. Jesus performed miracles after supplicating first. Always he is supplicating. Who else does he need if he is Almighty God?
I’m sure some are thinking that Jesus needed to show an example of how to live for his followers. But this only makes sense if Jesus was a follower himself, and not Almighty God. In fact, Jesus could have made things very simple for us by stating explicitly “I am God!”. We get nothing of the sort. But any time Jesus referes to God, he is referring to him (within the Bible) as either God, the Father, or the Lord. Oh and something I just noticed here is at the beginning of the Lord’s Prayer Jesus supposedly said “Our Father”. “Ours” rather than “my”. Why not just “my”? If we are all God’s Children in a spiritual sense of being his chosen ones or followers, then why does Jesus have the literal title of Son of God? It would probably be more accurate to think that Jesus started this with “Our Lord” which in aramaic would be “Maran” rather than how it starts with “Ah bwoon” (our Father).
Jesus came to establish the Law and give glad tidings
Mathew 5:17 (NIV)
“Do not think that I have come to abolish the Law or the Prophets; I have not come to abolish them but to fulfill them.”
Quran 61:6 (Yusuf Ali translation):
“And remember, Jesus, the son of Mary, said: “O Children of Israel! I am the apostle of Allah (sent) to you, confirming the Law (which came) before me, and giving Glad Tidings of an Messenger to come after me, whose name shall be Ahmad.” But when he came to them with Clear Signs, they said, “this is evident sorcery!””
“And the book is delivered to him that is not learned, saying, Read this, I pray thee: and he saith, I am not learned.”
Quran 96:1 (Yusuf Ali translation):
“Proclaim! (or read!) in the name of thy Lord and Cherisher, Who created-“
Quran 7:157 (Yusuf Ali translation):
“Those who follow the apostle, the unlettered Prophet, whom they find mentioned in their own (scriptures),- in the law and the Gospel;- for he commands them what is just and forbids them what is evil; he allows them as lawful what is good (and pure) and prohibits them from what is bad (and impure); He releases them from their heavy burdens and from the yokes that are upon them. So it is those who believe in him, honour him, help him, and follow the light which is sent down with him,- it is they who will prosper.”
Really what I find most confusing is why Jesus was even deified by Paul in the first place? And how did anyone get convinced by him even though Jesus’s own disciples ran away from him?
If you know the answer, please leave the answer below 🙂 I appreciate any comments and engagement and am looking forward to reading your answers.